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Caroline
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Topic: Hycosan eyedropsPosted: at 12:55am |
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Good blog Nor. Different background to your dry eyes than mine (meibomian gland blocked by a cyst leading to to recurrent corneal erosion) but fascinating to learn about what you've tried and I'm looking forward to the next instalment. Very brave of you to spend this time on your computer telling people about your experiences when I can imagine that it would be better for your eyes to stay away from the screen.
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nor
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Posted: at 10:04am |
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Thank you Caroline. You said you have corneal erosion - is this different to having corneal scratches (which is what I get when my eyes get very dry).
Yes using the laptop for so long isn't good for eyes so i try to space the usage out and make sure I use my drops too. I'm glad you liked my blog, I've relied alot on other people's experiences, so it feels good to share my story with others now.
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Caroline
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Posted: at 5:02pm |
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Corneal erosion is like having someone drive a sharp screwdriver through your eyeball totally unexpectedly in the middle of the night! If you have had damage to the surface of your eye at some point in the past (e.g. a paper cut or, in my case, a cut from the sharp edge of a vicious houseplant leaf) it leaves a weakness in the structure of the cornea. Then when you get dry eye for whatever reason, overnight your eye dries out, your eyelid sticks to it, and when you involuntarily open your eye or move your eyeball in the middle of the night, the eyelid rips the surface of the cornea away from the layer below along the line of the old cut. It's painful and scary. But I'm dealing with it well now. I put the Lumecare gel in last thing at night and then put on the Tranquileyes goggles, soaked in filtered water. They hold my eyes shut all night. In the morning I put the Lumecare drops into the corner of my eye before I open it and allow the drops to moisturise my eyeball before I open my eye. No pain. And I don't get any symptoms during the day so I'm very lucky. I did see a consultant about having the remains of my meibomian cyst removed which may unblock the gland but I haven't decided whether to risk the operation - I'm a real coward about scalpels and eyes. In the meanwhile, I use Lumecare's warm eye mask once a day to keep the gland relatively clear. Reading the posts on this site make me realise how well-off I am, comparatively speaking.
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nor
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Posted: at 10:33pm |
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Hi Caroline,
Sorry for such a late reply, I just haven't had time this week to go on forums! Your description of corneal erosion sounds so painful. In comparison I feel incredibly lucky not to be suffering to the extent you are. I really don't know how I would cope in your shoes. Would you mind if I wrote a blog post about your experience - basically as an example of how severe dry eyes can be? Please don't panick, I have not put any of your experience on my blog and would never do this without your permission.
I've read about eye masks but not sure whether they would help my eyes - I don't know if my eyes are severely dry enough to benefit from the masks. I might experiment with these (including goggles) in the future.
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Caroline
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Posted: at 12:20am |
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Hi Nor
The funny thing is that I think I'm well off. I've been working all day on the laptop - 13 hours pretty well non-stop - and my eyes are doing fine. It's just the sleep bit which is a worry. For example, I'm on a couple of long-haul flights in October and, whereas I used to just fall asleep in between films and meals, now I'll have to go through the eye gel, goggles, eye drops palaver before I can relax. But I suppose no-one else really cares. The goggles make me look like "The Fly" apparently. Not romantic. But they just keep the eyes in a moist environment and, most importantly for me, ensure that my eyelids don't involuntarily pop open if I wake suddenly. If the drops do the trick for you, you won't need the goggles. But the flax seed mask is great for getting your eye lubricant moving because it's gentle and it remains warm for a long time. Of course you can put me in your blog - I just read the latest instalment BTW. It' s a great idea to help other people who haven't worked out what's wrong with them and to give them ideas/options of how they might deal with their syptoms. What is worrying is that all the things I've done to get this thing under control in order to live with it have come from the research I've done on the internet. Not one single constructive idea from the doctors on controlling the symptoms while I wait for a consultant's appointment. In their view, it's antibiotics followed by surgery if necessary. But how can they be expected to know how every condition they treat feels? I hope your little boy is better now. Caroline |
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nor
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Posted: at 10:20pm |
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Hi Caroline,
So good to hear you can work for that long without your eyes troubling you. When I fall sleep my eyes feel dry on waking (even after naps), but thankfully no way as bad as yours. I agree with you that most people don't really understand what dry eyes feel like and how they impact our lives. Even the doctors don't really manage it effectively, we have to use our own resources. Everything I know about self-managing my eyes - like you - has come from my own research on the net. The drops/masks/surgery/nutritional supplements, I now even know about the Boston Scleral lenses!
Anyway, thanks for your permission, I'll add your story to my blog!
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Posie
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Posted: at 4:28pm |
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Hi Nor
can you get hycosan via NHS? I am still trying out different drops. I was wondering about hyabak or vismed. Have you tried these? I have found theratears quite good and were recommended by opometrist but I cannot afford to go on buying them.
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nor
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Posted: at 11:47am |
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Hi Posie, No hycosan is not available on prescription. Because of this I asked my doctor for Vismed which is also very good (although I did prefer the hycosan). I managed to get Vismed on prescription but it was very difficult to get hold of for the pharmacy. It's not that common and is very expensive. (I haven't tried the Hyabak). I would recommend you work out how many bottles you would need per month and ask your gp for a repeat prescription - this way your chemist will be more likely to get them (they have to order in bulk and if it's a one off will have a very expensive medicine just sitting on their shelf).
If you have other medicines on prescriptions and pay the prescription charge then get a pre-payment certificate. I usually get one for 3 months - I save probably 50% on how much I would have to pay on prescription charges.
Hope I've helped. Good luck.
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Posie
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Posted: at 10:12pm |
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Thank you Nor. I am seeing my GP next week so will take account of your info. I have had a PPC recently. And thanks for doing the blog. Best wishes
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Posted: at 6:59pm |
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Hi:
I read about your experience with corneal erosion. I got hit by a tennis ball right in the eye in October (At high speed). It recovered, and the worry of the day was retinal detachment. A few times in January, I woke up and felt a bit of a pain in my eyes, ignored it, got on with the day -- it went away. Then 3 weeks ago, I got a pain that was a bit sharper and felt like a small tear. It got worse when I splashed water in my eye. Then it just lasted and lasted and got worse as the day got on. When I went outside, my eye stung in a way that I immediately recognised-- it had stung that same way when I first got injured by the tennis ball and sustained a corneal abrasion.
Towards evening, it got pretty near unbearable and I went to Moorfields Eye Hospital for emergency treatment. They patched my eye and told me that I had a really major abrasion. They told me to come back in two days time. I did. The abrasion had healed really well, but then for the first time the term "recurrent erosion" was used in my presence. I was prescribed Celluvisc drops and Lacrilube ointment at night. I was still innocent and just relieved that the abrasion had more or less healed so fast. 36 hours later, I woke up with my eye watering profusely and had to go back to the emergency room. Luckily, the episode settled down after about 2 hours, in fact while I was seeing the doctor. This was the first time that anyone explained to me that it was a fairly chronic thing, that it wasn't an injury that would just heal or go away on its own. The doctor told me that my lubrication was not aggressive enough. So he had me on viscotears 4 times a day, Hycosan every 2 hours, and lacrilube at night.
I don't get erosions during the day. A few mornings I have woken up and my eyes have felt a bit sore and watery. It's hard to tell however when there's so much stuff I'm putting in my eye. I'm told that the erosion happens on waking in the morning. Thus when I've successfully awoken without any major trouble, there's a feeling of immense relief. However, sleeping is really dreadful. I usually sleep for about 3-4 hours, then some worry mechanism wakes me up and around 4:30 or so I find myself squeezing some drops into my eye and then sleeping intermittently until around 8 am or so. I find this really interfering with getting proper sleep and getting out of bed before 8 or so.
Against that, and I realise I'm tempting fate here, I have not had a serious or semi-serious erosion in 3 weeks. But it has taken a toll -- don't feel comfortable about drinking, don't feel relaxed in the evenings, hate it when night falls and I have to go to bed, can't sleep properly at night. And I'm perhaps lucky because I hear about people that get erosions every day or twice a week etc.
Interested to hear your coping strategies....
BEST
KD
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